Comments on: simple symbol http://www.seriouskilowatt.com/archives/11.html Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:13:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Serious http://www.seriouskilowatt.com/archives/11.html/comment-page-1#comment-29 Serious Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:57:00 +0000 http://seriouskilowatt.com/archives/11.html#comment-29 Good points! I agree it is more of a 'pictogram' than what we would normally classify as symbol since it's not really an image of an object or something like that. I thought about that but the word pictogram didn't come to mind so I just called it a "simple symbol." :-) Though they do seem to usually be more of a conceptual nature, I sometimes get symbols that are almost all physical data and need to be down-analyzed physically to interpret them correctly. To me that's one of the really tough parts about symbology, is knowing when to interpret something conceptually vs. physically vs. a mix of both (or not interpret it at all because sometimes a cigar is just a cigar). Unfortunately, I didn't get the sense of 'people gathered together' in session so it didn't make it to the full translation of eight people in a circle (which is why I said it wasn't going to knock any socks of lol). As a basic stand alone example of how things like numerical value and spacial arrangement might be communicated in session though, it works! Good points! I agree it is more of a ‘pictogram’ than what we would normally classify as symbol since it’s not really an image of an object or something like that. I thought about that but the word pictogram didn’t come to mind so I just called it a “simple symbol.” :-)

Though they do seem to usually be more of a conceptual nature, I sometimes get symbols that are almost all physical data and need to be down-analyzed physically to interpret them correctly. To me that’s one of the really tough parts about symbology, is knowing when to interpret something conceptually vs. physically vs. a mix of both (or not interpret it at all because sometimes a cigar is just a cigar).

Unfortunately, I didn’t get the sense of ‘people gathered together’ in session so it didn’t make it to the full translation of eight people in a circle (which is why I said it wasn’t going to knock any socks of lol). As a basic stand alone example of how things like numerical value and spacial arrangement might be communicated in session though, it works!

]]> By: palyne http://www.seriouskilowatt.com/archives/11.html/comment-page-1#comment-28 palyne Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:03:07 +0000 http://seriouskilowatt.com/archives/11.html#comment-28 I like the circle/soldiers ref. Though that is almost wholly physical as a pictographic analogy. I would usually think of symbolism as something that 'meant' (conceptually more than physically) something, like, if you had seen 8 bullets in a circle, to me that would be more typical of 'symbol' than just the lines, as the bullets would obviously 'mean something' in addition to the physical placement. Still, it is a symbol as far as representative goes I guess. I think some of the issue there is that if one got the people and a sense of them together in some way, then the symbol might add to that. Without the viewing picking up the other data though, the symbol is left without possibility of translation (seems to me). I like the circle/soldiers ref. Though that is almost wholly physical as a pictographic analogy. I would usually think of symbolism as something that ‘meant’ (conceptually more than physically) something, like, if you had seen 8 bullets in a circle, to me that would be more typical of ’symbol’ than just the lines, as the bullets would obviously ‘mean something’ in addition to the physical placement. Still, it is a symbol as far as representative goes I guess. I think some of the issue there is that if one got the people and a sense of them together in some way, then the symbol might add to that. Without the viewing picking up the other data though, the symbol is left without possibility of translation (seems to me).

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